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Post#7576 at 02-27-2012 03:04 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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and as the GOP gets lost in theology...


A new POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Poll reveals the prolonged nominating battle is taking a toll on the GOP candidates and finds the president’s standing significantly improved from late last year.

President Barack Obama’s approval rating is 53 percent, up 9 percentage points in four months. Matched up against his Republican opponents, he leads Mitt Romney by 10 points (53-43) and Rick Santorum by 11 (53-42). Even against a generic, unnamed Republican untarnished by attacks, Obama is up 5 percentage points. In November, he was tied....


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1nbuQnyLo

blow-out comin?
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Post#7577 at 02-27-2012 03:16 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Just a thought...

Gas prices up on speculation over Iran. GOP grasping that this may be Obama's Achilles Heel.

Hmm, Iran is desperate for hard currency. Has only two buyers now, China and India, of its only export. China/India - in a big rush to buy that oil? Don't think so; their economies actually slowing down with China govt actually applying some braking.

What happens when seller is desperate and buyers in no big rush?

What happens when speculators get tired of wanking in one direction? Answer: they wank in the opposite direction. It's all short-term stuff.

But if you locked yourself into a long-term situation where your only two buyers become even less interested in what your selling - at least without a substantial discount?

Interesting non-conventional wisdom scenario - oil price collapse.

Can you imagine the profits from going short right now?
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Post#7578 at 02-27-2012 03:32 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Some interesting headlines -

Some Michigan backers of President Barack Obama to vote for GOP candidates
Michigan Democratic Party encourages crossover voting in GOP
Can crossover Democrats sink Mitt Romney in Michigan?
How Serious Is The Democratic Crossover Vote Threat In Michigan
I actually think this is a bad move by the Dems.

If Santorum takes Michigan but exit polls clearly show that it was the Dem x-over that gave it to him, Romney can beat him like a rented mule for the rest of the primaries over this.

It's going to be interesting. Break out the popcorn tomorrow night!
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Post#7579 at 02-27-2012 03:49 PM by TimWalker [at joined May 2007 #posts 6,368]
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Time magazine (March 5 '12) devotes a cover, plus articles, to Latios and the next U.S. election.







Post#7580 at 02-27-2012 05:34 PM by Kurt Horner [at joined Oct 2001 #posts 1,656]
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Quote Originally Posted by Wallace 88 View Post
From what I see of some of the other posts, you might be confusing employee benefits as business expenses with "tax cuts."
Yes, to clarify, the tilted playing field is that purchasing health insurance is not income if you're a business and is income if you're an individual. Also, even self-employed persons married to employed persons cannot deduct health insurance. The tax code encourages a self employed person with an employed spouse to get their insurance through the employed spouse. This means that for a worker, if your employer offers you $1000 extra wages or $1000 of health insurance, you will want the insurance since the wages will get taxed. This also means that an employer trying to incentivize any particular quality of worker will want to offer health insurance as an included benefit since it will cost them more to attract the same employee if they offer them wages alone.







Post#7581 at 02-27-2012 05:44 PM by Weave [at joined Feb 2010 #posts 909]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Yeah those Politico polls...really accurate there....

Todays Rasmussen Romney 45 Obama 43....Obama approval at 45%....dropped 5% since last week.

Obama even loses to Ron Paul

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

Todays Gallup approval 45%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

Romney 47% Obama 47%


A blowout may be coming but it might not be the blowout you want.....







Post#7582 at 02-27-2012 06:04 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Female orgasims were not in God's plan

A new controversey erupts!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...ia=blog_792316

- anyone notice the lack of women in any of the panels? The trend continues!





This latest GOP issue may be having an impact on women -

While Democrats lost women voters in the 2010 midterm election, Obama now carries them by 12 percentage points against a generic Republican. Among white women, Obama leads Romney 51 percent to 45 percent. It’s a strong base to build from, according to Lake.

“Both a combination of the president’s positives and the Republicans’ negatives have brought women back in very strong form,” said LakeRead more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1ncb9Rnpi


however, and I'm not sure about this, but it looks like Santorum has, ah, ah risen above it all -

http://weldbham.com/secondfront/2012...ama-three-way/

Santorum comes from behind in Alabama three-way
- now just picture that!
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Post#7583 at 02-27-2012 06:19 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by Weave View Post
Yeah those Politico polls...really accurate there....

Todays Rasmussen Romney 45 Obama 43....Obama approval at 45%....dropped 5% since last week.

Obama even loses to Ron Paul

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

Todays Gallup approval 45%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

Romney 47% Obama 47%


A blowout may be coming but it might not be the blowout you want.....
Oh really?

You may want to take a look at the composite of all major polling -

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/electi...chart_mode=new

Guess what happens when you take out the GOP's push-poller Rasmusen? Guess what happens if you substitute Santorum for Romney? Guess what happens as Santorum/Gingrich/Paul continue, all the way to the convention, to turn Romney radioactive with both women and sane voters?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HBdRCroks
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Post#7584 at 02-27-2012 06:38 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Dowd eviscerates the GOP

Wow, this is up there with her similiar treatment of Gore ("...feminized and diversified and ecologically correct that he's practically lactating") -

Ghastly Outdated Party

IT’S finally sinking in.

Republicans are getting queasy at the gruesome sight of their party eating itself alive, savaging the brand in ways that will long resonate.

“Republicans being against sex is not good,” the G.O.P. strategist Alex Castellanos told me mournfully. “Sex is popular.”

He said his party is “coming to grips with a weaker field than we’d all want” and going through the five stages of grief. “We’re at No. 4,” he said. (Depression.) “We’ve still got one to go.” (Acceptance.)

The contenders in the Hester Prynne primaries are tripping over one another trying to be the most radical, unreasonable and insane candidate they can be. They pounce on any traces of sanity in the other candidates — be it humanity toward women, compassion toward immigrants or the willingness to make the rich pay a nickel more in taxes — and try to destroy them with it.

President Obama has deranged conservatives just as W. deranged liberals. The right’s image of Obama, though, is more a figment of its imagination than the left’s image of W. was.

Newt Gingrich, a war wimp in Vietnam who supported W.’s trumped-up invasion of Iraq, had the gall to tell a crowd at Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Okla., that defeating Obama — “the most dangerous president in modern American history” — was “a duty of national security” because “he is incapable of defending the United States” and because he “wants to unilaterally weaken the United States.” Who killed Osama again?

How can the warm, nurturing Catholic Church of my youth now be represented in the public arena by uncharitable nasties like Gingrich and Rick Santorum?

“It makes the party look like it isn’t a modern party,” Rudy Giuliani told CNN’s Erin Burnett, fretting about the candidates’ Cotton Mather attitude about women and gays. “It doesn’t understand the modern world that we live in.”

After a speech in Dallas on Thursday, Jeb Bush also recoiled: “I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and I’m wondering, I don’t think I’ve changed, but it’s a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people’s fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective.”

Alan Simpson, the former Republican senator from Wyoming, recently called Santorum “rigid and homophobic.” Arlen Specter, who quit the Republicans to become a Democrat three years ago before Pennsylvania voters sent him home from the Senate, told MSNBC: “Where you have Senator Santorum’s views, so far to the right, with his attitude on women in the workplace and gays and the bestiality comments and birth control, I do not think it is realistic for Rick Santorum to represent America.” That from the man who accused Anita Hill of perjury.

Republicans have a growing panic at the thought of going down the drain with a loser, missing their chance at capturing the Senate and giving back all those House seats won in 2010. More and more, they openly yearn for a fresh candidate, including Jeb Bush, who does, after all, have experience at shoplifting presidential victories at the last minute.

Their jitters increased exponentially as they watched Mitt belly-flop in his hometown on Friday, giving a dreadful rehash of his economic ideas in a virtually empty Ford Field in Detroit, babbling again about the “right height” of Michigan trees and blurting out that Ann “drives a couple of Cadillacs.”

Romney’s Richie Rich slips underscore what Ed Rollins, a Republican strategist, told the Ripon Forum: “If we are only the party of Wall Street and country clubbers, we will quickly become irrelevant.”

Santorum, whose name aptly comes from the same Latin root as sanctimonious, went on Glenn Beck’s Web-based show with his family and offered this lunacy: “I understand why Barack Obama wants to send every kid to college,” because colleges are “indoctrination mills” that “harm” the country. He evidently wants home university schooling, which will cut down on keggers.

His wife, Karen, suggested that her husband’s success is “God’s will” and that he wants “to make the culture a better culture, more pleasing to God.”

The barking-mad Republicans of Virginia are helping to make the party look foolish and creepy. A video went viral on Friday in which Delegate Dave Albo comically regaled his fellow lawmakers on the floor of the Statehouse with his own Old Dominion version of “Lysistrata”: he suggested that he was denied sex with his wife because of a Republican-sponsored bill that would have made ultrasounds, often with a vaginal probe, mandatory for women seeking abortions.

With music, red wine and a big-screen TV, he made a move on his wife, Rita, while she was watching a news report about the bill. “And she looks at me and goes, ‘I’ve got to go to bed,’ ” Albo said as his colleagues guffawed.

The Republicans, with their crazed Reagan fixation, are a last-gasp party, living posthumously, fighting battles on sex, race, immigration and public education long ago won by the other side.

They’re trying to roll back the clock, but time is passing them by.
- hell has no fury .....

But admitedly, fairly easy, when her target is a deranged deer caught in the headlights.
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Post#7585 at 02-27-2012 07:16 PM by JohnMc82 [at Back in Jax joined Jan 2011 #posts 1,962]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
I actually think this is a bad move by the Dems.

If Santorum takes Michigan but exit polls clearly show that it was the Dem x-over that gave it to him, Romney can beat him like a rented mule for the rest of the primaries over this.
Disagree on the strategic analysis...

The media and party heads have been doing everything they can for Romney. The rise of Gingrich and now Santorum is seen by many as the "true conservatives" taking back their party from the rich party bosses.

So the narrative on sites like FreeRepublic is that anyone who says anything against Santorum is actually supporting Romney. Then they get banned. As long as Romney loses tomorrow, they don't care how or who made it happen. If the media and party leaders try to explain that Santorum is basically a trap being set up by Democrats, they'll just use that as more "proof" that the bosses are in the tank for Romney.
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Post#7586 at 02-27-2012 09:51 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by JohnMc82 View Post
Disagree on the strategic analysis...

The media and party heads have been doing everything they can for Romney. The rise of Gingrich and now Santorum is seen by many as the "true conservatives" taking back their party from the rich party bosses.

So the narrative on sites like FreeRepublic is that anyone who says anything against Santorum is actually supporting Romney. Then they get banned. As long as Romney loses tomorrow, they don't care how or who made it happen. If the media and party leaders try to explain that Santorum is basically a trap being set up by Democrats, they'll just use that as more "proof" that the bosses are in the tank for Romney.
Pretty amazing. I hope it goes that way.

Go Saintly Santorum, go, go go!!!
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Hey Michigan Dems, get out and vote for this guy!

Santorum on JFK -

“To say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case?”

“That makes me throw up and it should make every American who is seen from the president, someone who is now trying to tell people of faith that you will do what the government says, we are going to impose our values on you, not that you can’t come to the public square and argue against it, but now we’re going to turn around and say we’re going to impose our values from the government on people of faith, which of course is the next logical step when people of faith, at least according to John Kennedy, have no role in the public square.”
Kennedy's actual speech -

“I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute, where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference; and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.

“I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish; where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source; where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials; and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.”
You remember Jack - WW2 hero, President who stared down the Soviets in the Cuban Missile Crisis, and shot through the head for being President?

Yea, that guy now makes Little Ricky sick to his stomach.

Little Ricky, I hope Michigan Dems put you over the top tomorrow night ---

--- as one big collective FU.

F you and the horse you rode in on. As well as the morons that now make up the insane tatters of what was once the Grand Ole Party.

Pathetic cretins.
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Those words of JFK's are perhaps the single most depressing commentary on the last 52 years I have lived through. No one could argue withthem then.

Romney is the favorite in Michigan right now but not overwhelmingly, and if he loses, I think he is toast. The Republicans will tear themselves apart. Obama has practiced what we call at the War College a Fabian strategy--the Roman general Fabius avoided battle and allowed Hannibal to wear himself and his army out marching around Italy. It's working.







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As a female, raised as a mainline Protestant, a person who works in higher ed, it is terribly depressing that Santorum is getting any serious consideration. I can't argue with JFK's words at all. In fact, it was very much a part of my upbringing and education, even in a conservative midwestern town from 1965-75.







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Quote Originally Posted by Weave View Post
Yeah those Politico polls...really accurate there....

Todays Rasmussen Romney 45 Obama 43....Obama approval at 45%....dropped 5% since last week.

Obama even loses to Ron Paul

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

Todays Gallup approval 45%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Ga...-Approval.aspx

Romney 47% Obama 47%


A blowout may be coming but it might not be the blowout you want.....
The first time I've ever seen a poll where Ron Paul leads Obama.

Yeah, Rasmussen, real representative...... really accurate there....
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Definition of stupid:

some people deciding not to approve of Obama, because gas prices go up.

The easily-known facts: there is no gas shortage;

Demand is down 6%;

so more drilling will not change gas prices.

So what can Obama do that he's not already doing about gas prices?

Threaten the oil companies with action? That would be nice, but what can he do?

Shut down the speculators? How?

The only answer is more electric cars.

The resulting competition and lower demand would bring gas prices down.

Of course, voting Republican would help us have more electric cars!

(dumb! stupid!)
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At a social group & potluck supper last Saturday night, the gang got to talking about horror movies, and our host said in a soft voice "I have a horror story for you."

We all waited expectantly.

"President Santorum."

He wins. He has just beat the current "shortest horror story in the world"** for length and horror by quite a bit. In fact, he has said in two words what Robert Heinlein and Margaret Atwood both took entire novels to say.

** The shortest horror story in the world -- this one goes way back -

"The last man on earth sat alone in a room. There was a knock on the door."

BTW - in one incarnation, it is also a riddle. One virtual s'more-type cookie to whoever can answer it.
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Quote Originally Posted by annla899 View Post
As a female, raised as a mainline Protestant, a person who works in higher ed, it is terribly depressing that Santorum is getting any serious consideration. I can't argue with JFK's words at all. In fact, it was very much a part of my upbringing and education, even in a conservative midwestern town from 1965-75.
As someone who lives so close to Santorum's alleged home state, I don't know how he ever got on the radar at this level.
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Quote Originally Posted by Earl and Mooch View Post
As someone who lives so close to Santorum's alleged home state, I don't know how he ever got on the radar at this level.
The party is fractured. Even Ron Paul recognizes how bad in conceiving a Santorium GOP win.

Its doesn't matter, the party has pissed me off and I am going Gary Johnson this year.







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Quote Originally Posted by annla899 View Post
... In fact, it was very much a part of my upbringing and education,...
Mine too. I thought so for the last 250 years or longer in this country.

I thought it was why the Pilgrims got on the frickin boat.
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Quote Originally Posted by The Grey Badger View Post
At a social group & potluck supper last Saturday night, the gang got to talking about horror movies, and our host said in a soft voice "I have a horror story for you."

We all waited expectantly.

"President Santorum."

He wins. He has just beat the current "shortest horror story in the world"** for length and horror by quite a bit. In fact, he has said in two words what Robert Heinlein and Margaret Atwood both took entire novels to say.

** The shortest horror story in the world -- this one goes way back -

"The last man on earth sat alone in a room. There was a knock on the door."

BTW - in one incarnation, it is also a riddle. One virtual s'more-type cookie to whoever can answer it.
....Eve

... and its a love story where the snake is a good guy.
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Quote Originally Posted by The Grey Badger View Post
At a social group & potluck supper last Saturday night, the gang got to talking about horror movies, and our host said in a soft voice "I have a horror story for you."

We all waited expectantly.

"President Santorum."

He wins. He has just beat the current "shortest horror story in the world"** for length and horror by quite a bit. In fact, he has said in two words what Robert Heinlein and Margaret Atwood both took entire novels to say.

** The shortest horror story in the world -- this one goes way back -

"The last man on earth sat alone in a room. There was a knock on the door."

BTW - in one incarnation, it is also a riddle. One virtual s'more-type cookie to whoever can answer it.
Santorum is a perfect example of a severely neurotic Introverted Intuition type as Jung originally defined it. He screams repressed extraverted sensation.

Santorum scares the sh*t out of me.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.

-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism







Post#7598 at 02-28-2012 01:27 PM by KaiserD2 [at David Kaiser '47 joined Jul 2001 #posts 5,220]
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David Brooks of the NY Times, a reliable Republican in independents' clothing, has suddenly woken up to what has happened to his party and what the consequences are going to be. George Will is not as far on the road to recovery, but he's very worried about his two candidates as well. I still don't expect this election to result in a great regeneracy, but it could mark the critical defeat of the far right. Meanwhile, a moderate Republican colleague thinks that if Santorum is the candidate the Democrats will regain the House and gain seats in the Senate. Even I am not that optimistic.







Post#7599 at 02-28-2012 01:35 PM by The Grey Badger [at Albuquerque, NM joined Sep 2001 #posts 8,876]
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Quote Originally Posted by KaiserD2 View Post
David Brooks of the NY Times, a reliable Republican in independents' clothing, has suddenly woken up to what has happened to his party and what the consequences are going to be. George Will is not as far on the road to recovery, but he's very worried about his two candidates as well. I still don't expect this election to result in a great regeneracy, but it could mark the critical defeat of the far right. Meanwhile, a moderate Republican colleague thinks that if Santorum is the candidate the Democrats will regain the House and gain seats in the Senate. Even I am not that optimistic.
Now waking up to what the political cartoonists have been saying all along, eh?
"What do you call the Republican candidates this year?"
"The Committee to Re-elect Obama."
How to spot a shill, by John Michael Greer: "What you watch for is (a) a brand new commenter who (b) has nothing to say about the topic under discussion but (c) trots out a smoothly written opinion piece that (d) hits all the standard talking points currently being used by a specific political or corporate interest, while (e) avoiding any other points anyone else has made on that subject."

"If the shoe fits..." The Grey Badger.







Post#7600 at 02-28-2012 01:44 PM by radind [at Alabama joined Sep 2009 #posts 1,595]
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Quote Originally Posted by KaiserD2 View Post
David Brooks of the NY Times, a reliable Republican in independents' clothing, has suddenly woken up to what has happened to his party and what the consequences are going to be. George Will is not as far on the road to recovery, but he's very worried about his two candidates as well. I still don't expect this election to result in a great regeneracy, but it could mark the critical defeat of the far right. Meanwhile, a moderate Republican colleague thinks that if Santorum is the candidate the Democrats will regain the House and gain seats in the Senate. Even I am not that optimistic.
If Santorum were to win the nomination, I wold expect a masssive loss by the Republicans. It might then take a new party to compete. I still expect Romney to win the nomination .
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