And to think, Obama is a Leo!
And to think, Obama is a Leo!
Wow, if only it were true. I've never heard of The Daily Currant. Apparently a satire magazine, unlike the other story Odin quoted. But that would apply to the Bachmann quote too.
Of course on the right I saw a link to this story; kind of a tipoff:
"Justin Bieber Rushed to Hospital Following First Erection"
http://dailycurrant.com/2012/09/05/j...ital-erection/
Last edited by Eric the Green; 09-30-2012 at 09:39 PM.
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
The irony being of course that in fact he's the sexiest guy on the planet, and has the most women admirers.
But back on topic. Those who would like to see the 269-269 outcome, should also consider another wrinkle. Nebraska can split its vote, and last time it gave one vote to Obama.
That seems to have been a complaint the GIs had against the Boomers, going back to their childhood. If it hasn't changed by now, it's not going to change.
Just pointing out what's in the past & more.Originally Posted by Flower Drum Song by Rodgers & Hammerstein, 1958
Although, to be fair the subject of the generation gap pops up in the mid 1950s (same time Rock 'n' Roll does) and is talking about teenagers coming of age (18 circa 1954 - 1956 = 1936 - 1938), so the original target of these things are latter-day Silents & War Babies...but Aquarian Boomers are lumped in together thanks to the critique of children in general that you get from "The Bad Seed".
~Chas'88
Last edited by Chas'88; 10-01-2012 at 05:42 AM.
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
Chas, if you listen to Xers we complain about the same thing too. Though in the opposite direction than the GIs.
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Anyway, the thing that strikes me about this discussion is the utter pointlessness of it. A Electorial Collage split has only happened twice 1800 and 1876. I don't foresee a EC split happening. Not when the polls are indicating that Obama has 265 safe or lean votes to Romney's 191.
What this means is that Obama only needs Iowa or Nevada (both are relatively small states) while Romeny needs to get all the swing states.
This election is in the bag for the President.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...llege_map.html
I know full well you guys complain about it. Sometimes it's all you guys will ever talk about when talking about Boomers... just thought I'd point out that the root of the problem goes deeper.
~Chas'88
Last edited by Chas'88; 10-01-2012 at 05:54 AM.
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
Agreed, although, I must say that this is my favorite part of the film's version of the musical... it's just so intricately satirical:
Sunday - Part 1
Sunday - Part 2
Sunday - Part 3 - another stereotype of the "typical" Boomer child
Sunday - Part 4
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
Jeez, I post a serious article and Rani responds with snark involving font size. How predictable.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. JFK
Oh yes, very sexy.
Here's a good explanation of why the Prez election is essentially over even while the GOP screams about biased polls or applies new math -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ng-state-lead/
What this says is that Obama wins easily in the Electoral College but with the popular vote being much closer. The election will show how very bright red the Red states have become and likely to remain as such for some time changing only because of longer-term demographical changes (e.g. Texas). Not surprisingly, this will lead to continued obstruction strategy by the Right in Congress (e.g. filibuster), in their gerrymandering at the state/local level, and in voter suppression.Washington Post poll: How a 2% national lead is giving Obama an 11% swing-state lead
...If you looked only at the top-line numbers, today’s new Washington Post-ABC News poll would seem to show a tight race. Obama leads Romney nationally by a razor-thin 49 percent to 47 percent. But if you only look at swing states, he’s leading by double-digits: 52 percent to 41 percent. This discrepancy is explained by Romney’s large margin in solid red states. He leads those by 14 points, 56 percent to 42 percent, while Obama leads solid Democratic states by only 10 points (53 percent to 43 percent). ...
The Dems are going to have to forgo any notion of bipartisan strategy. It may be used if tactically advantageous - such as bargaining chips - but highly limited in likelihood and extent because the Right will be increasingly willing to let the country go down the toilet with each inevitable step towards a more Progressive society. More and more they will be seen, and will see themselves, as cornered desperados.
The demise of the desperados is going to take considerable time and do great damage to the US standing in the world on all fronts. The only way to accelerate their fading as a political force is that a more moderate fraction of the GOP begins to say enough is enough. They may just stay home during elections, cross over to the Dems where they're offered a more moderate alternative, or actually split the GOP. The Dems have a golden opportunity to appeal to the more moderate wing (probable Indys that use to call themselves Republicans). Like with this re-election of Obama, it's going to have to be state-by-state which will make it feel like a precursor to a second Civil War. However, as some of those Red states, particularly Texas, shift to purple and eventually Blue, it will become more obvious that it is more about the inevitable passing of a peculiar way of thinking that just doesn’t work anymore.
Last edited by playwrite; 10-01-2012 at 01:23 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
I didn't do anything. I just read the article The Rani posted. It seems quite in character with Ms. Bachmann, although I didn't know it was satire. Since you brought it up, now it's permissible to make my remark about Bachmann that I had deleted too.
I learned about that website though, which I didn't know about. It's funny. But that website, in turn, had absolutely nothing to do with the article Odin posted, which factually revealed the idiocy of some Romney supporters, and was not a "joke" as JPT said (and as the website is). That idiocy remains the fact. And Bachmann remains a disgrace, even if she didn't make those remarks. She's said plenty of other stupid things, which is why she is the butt of the satire; as is Romney, because of the stupid things he said about the 47%. You just can't make up some of the things Romney says. So I was inclined at first to believe that what Bachmann said might be true, and that The Rani was actually upset about it, until I took a closer look. Instead, The Rani was supporting JPT, and that was the first and larger error, which you Prince have learned nothing from. Sorry that you are upset at me now; we were getting along so well on the other thread.
There is no excuse for people voting for Tea Party conservatives. Americans should take responsibility for their mistake in Nov.2010, and correct it. This year is their chance; I hope they take it. Instead, they may be blaming Democratic congresspeople for the slow recovery. Now, how stupid is that? Pretty lame; extremely lame in fact. Off the charts lame.
All that might be true. However, we can't take too much from one Post poll. The average margin between Obama and Romney always fluctuates, and the average on RCP has gone down from 4.1 to 3.7 today. The margin in blue states is just as big as that in the red ones (new poll shows Obama up 28% in Romney's home state of MA). Most of the swing states, according to the average of the polls, only show a 3% margin, not 11. So they are in line with the national average, except that Ohio is now "leaning Obama" with over 5%. Bad economic news may be to blame for the latest downward fluctuation. It certainly won't help Obama's numbers if it continues.
Me too of course.
And maybe people should be allowed to take a closer look; people make mistakes. Yes, the website you posted was a joke, and no, the website Odin posted was not. Which team is screaming more, then? Which is more fact-based? The answer is obvious. We can certainly all be more careful in our charges, and in how we support candidates; but there's also no escaping which team we need to be on in order to move our country forward. We need to be on the blue team. Even though we also cannot take the blue politicians for granted, since they are far from perfect (and IMO need to be greener). And remember too, such skepticism is common, and allowed, on the blue team, but not so much on the red team.
The difference is RCP has made OH, WI, MI "lean Obama and taken them out of "toss-up." That's good news for us but it does bring the average down of the remaining 7 "toss ups" to 3% lead. The thing is, Obama only needs to win one of four of those toss ups then (FL, VA, NC, CO) to win. He could loss all of those four and still win if he gets two of the remaining 3 (NH, IO, NV).
Also, for at least RCP's "Solid States," Romney does, on average, win those by more of the % population than does Obama win his - MA perhaps being the exception. One would expect this because Obama's states tend to be big population states (e.g. NY, CA) whereas Romney's with the exception of TX tend to be smaller populaiton states (e.g UT, MS, WY) and likely more uniform in their voting patterns.
Anyway, and either way, I would much rather be in Obama's shoes with just a tad over 5 weeks to go.
But you're right about folks getting complacent particularly in swing states like those seven. You hear me, NH, VA, NC, FL, IA, CO, NV?! GOTV!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Yes, or stated another way, he needs only one of six states: FL, VA, NC, IA, CO or NV.
Maybe, except that we have very scant polling of those red states, since their outcome is assumed. We know the margin in UT will be huge, because Romney is a Mormon, and polls confirm this. In many of the others, I'm not sure but that there might be some weakness or erosion in Romney's margin. Texas for example is gradually getting bluer as more Mexicans and Californians move there. Also, many Republicans are not quite so sure about Romney, for several reasons, and might not vote. On the other hand, MA has a big blue margin, but so does NY and VT and a few others.Also, for at least RCP's "Solid States," Romney does, on average, win those by more of the % population than does Obama win his - MA perhaps being the exception. One would expect this because Obama's states tend to be big population states (e.g. NY, CA) whereas Romney's with the exception of TX tend to be smaller population states (e.g UT, MS, WY) and likely more uniform in their voting patterns.
I hope they hear you!But you're right about folks getting complacent particularly in swing states like those seven. You hear me, NH, VA, NC, FL, IA, CO, NV?! GOTV!!!!!!!!!!!!
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Words out that all the practice Romney has been doing for Weds' debate is to come up with zingers to zing Obama.
Coming up with zingers for Romney has now become a pass time on the Internet. Let's get it started here, people!
To start us off, here's a good entry by Brad DeLong (UCB economist) -
Got some?Your momma's so fat she visits the emergency room to treat her diabetes.
…And then he said, 'which fork do I start with first'!'
My job is not to worry about the 47%. I'll never convince them to take personal responsibility for not inheriting stocks.
You're so poor, you only have one house!
I like firing people who provide me services unless they are running my failing campaign!
I'm not out-of-touch like McCain. I know how many houses I own. Twenty-nine!
Obama stole my bad, I mean good, no bad heath care idea!
Excuse me Sir, but I PAID for this election!
I think I know a thing or two about foreign policy. Lots of my money sits in foreign countries!
Where's the Kobe beef?
Are you better off than one of my prized horses, America?
Planned Parenthood, we're gonna get rid of that!
Obamacare? I built that!
No one needs to see my birth certificate!
You don't have to own 4 houses to know housing market isn't where it should be, Mr. President!
Mr. President, I know George W. Bush. George W. Bush is a friend of mine. And Mr. President, you're no George W. Bush!
*Mr President, you've left this economy on the roof far too long!
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
You missed the point of the article Odin posted. The point was not about Odin. The Romney supporters are screaming nonsense.
I'm still Green; I haven't contributed to Obama's campaign yet (or even actually whom to vote for)
I'm not buying any propaganda. The blue team does need to win; that's just a fact. Those who don't see that, who prefer to stand back and mock everybody, are the ones who believe the propaganda; like the libertarian propaganda that taxes are always bad and we don't need the government; that we can just rely on personal responsibility. Now that is some heavy delusion there.
But I did take a closer look, and it didn't take me long. I don't know why Prince insisted on not allowing me to take it. How long would it take to convince those Romney supporters in VA to give up their nonsense? Try that and see how far you get.I was talking about the website that published those particular articles.
The Bachmann piece was posted on fb by someone who (like Eric) was so blinded to reality that he couldn't recognize satire when he saw it.
It's fitting that it took an attack on Bieber for him to get it ... which means that he believed the Romney taco comment too!
Really neat playdude! It shows The Rani was not really looking for examples of Obama being mocked; she just wanted to claim that it's all about nothing except people screaming at each other. Preconceived prejudice. Speaking of which, the racist undertone of this video is obvious. Everyone knows a black president can really do nothing but dance, like those blacks do. Unless he's trying to emulate Justin Bieber. But then, he mostly works with black folks too.