Do you still love big bird?Originally Posted by the bouncer
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Do you still love big bird?
Some of us have kids that did. I really don't get the Big Bird hate. It isn't going to solve any financial problems.
Big Bird is a dude, not a dudette. He's an eternal six-year-old and thus is a Joneser by the 1969 start of the show, giving Big Bird a 1963 birth date.
Personally, I preferred his friend, Mr. Snuffleupagus.
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
A Millennial's response to the Debates:
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Just posting, neither agreeing nor disagreeing. Just sharing the info.Among my own Millennial friends, we don't debate economic reform without addressing the immigrant labor force. We never discuss health care without also grappling with women's rights. And yet, the candidates Wednesday night managed to debate fine points of policy while missing the big picture. We can't build a moral economy or health care system without considering the major social challenges of our time: civil liberties, immigration, women's rights, domestic extremism and climate change. None of these issues was even mentioned in the debate.
The failure to speak clearly and consistently to our generation's concerns about the world we will inherit has consequences in this election. In the 2008 election, Millennials made up 17% of the electorate and voted 66% for Obama, compared with 32% for John McCain. We were responsible for Obama's decisive seven-point victory, accounting for 80% of Obama's national popular vote margin over McCain.
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
If President Obama dares not call Mitt Romney a liar on stage, his campaign can do so with impunity. Mitt has used all the stale bromides from the usual libertarian and corporatist lingo.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Oh my god, the CNN comments... so much millie bashing. USA = FUBAR
Those words, "temperate and moderate", are words either of political cowardice, or of cunning, or seduction. A thing, moderately good, is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper, is always a virtue; but moderation in principle, is a species of vice.
'82 - Once & always independent
As long as it's a choice between bad & worse, nothing will ever improve.
Bri2k
But why would canals or tunnels that are ten times bigger be needed or even desirable?
A deeper canal can carry a higher class of ships or some of the volume in "bigger" can be veritcally cut through a longer section of land. Apparently though, China had some badass pre-industrial canals so maybe it isn't the best example after all. Still, good luck building something like this without a whole lot of people using the latest in "labor killing" technology...
Those words, "temperate and moderate", are words either of political cowardice, or of cunning, or seduction. A thing, moderately good, is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper, is always a virtue; but moderation in principle, is a species of vice.
'82 - Once & always independent
Politicians follow the political winds. More of the people need to insist on better, rather than bad.
It's beginning to look like my projected scenario might come to pass:
Republicans win in 2012, go on one last supply-side binge and at some point foment a war, leading to what will appear to be "seven fat years" (at least for those not actually serving in said war) from 2013-2019 (and the neocons who start the war won't care about whose taxes need to be increased, as during WW2); then there is another 1929-style crash, for symmetry's sake in October of 2019 (probably after the war has ended, but not necessarily), sparking another Great Depression during which progressives (not necessarily Democrats) regain power, the recovery from said depression ending the 4T.
Last edited by '58 Flat; 10-06-2012 at 07:24 AM.
But maybe if the putative Robin Hoods stopped trying to take from law-abiding citizens and give to criminals, take from men and give to women, take from believers and give to anti-believers, take from citizens and give to "undocumented" immigrants, and take from heterosexuals and give to homosexuals, they might have a lot more success in taking from the rich and giving to everyone else.
Don't blame me - I'm a Baby Buster!
Of course, when one has no concern for the cost of lives of workers let alone their personal hardships, then this sort of project is eminently possible. That may be a more literal expression of 'labor-killing'.
Of course, modernizing it so that it is relevant to modern shipping would require the more humane sort of 'labor-killing' techniques.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
This post is strikingly revealing about JPT's attitude. "Even" people like "Jack Welch?" What can we expect from a former CEO of GE, who is known for his right-wing opinions?
This is why I get pissed at the "there is no difference between the 2 parties" meme:
Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA): Evolution, Big Bang ‘Lies Straight From The Pit Of Hell’
This idiot's medical license should be revoked. A vote for a Republican is a vote for the Christian version of the Taliban.Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) tore into scientists as tools of the devil in a speech at the Liberty Baptist Church Sportsman’s Banquet last month.
“All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell,” Broun said. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
According to Broun, the scientific plot was primarily concerned with hiding the true age of the Earth. Broun serves on the House Science Committee, which came under scrutiny recently after another one of its Republican members, Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), suggested that victims of “legitimate rape” have unnamed biological defenses against pregnancy.
“You see, there are a lot of scientific data that I’ve found out as a scientist that actually show that this is really a young Earth,” he said. “I don’t believe that the Earth’s but about 9,000 years old. I believe it was created in six days as we know them. That’s what the Bible says.”
Broun — a physician, with an M.D. and a B.S. in chemistry — is generally considered to be among the most conservative members of Congress, if not the most. He drew national attention in 2010 for saying he did not know if President Obama was an American citizen.
In his speech, a clip of which was provided to TPM by The Bridge Project, a non-profit progressive tracker, Broun credited his literal Biblical interpretation with driving his approach to government.
The full 47-minute speech, posted by the Liberty Baptist Church, can be found here.
“What I’ve come to learn is that it’s the manufacturer’s handbook, is what I call it,” he said. “It teaches us how to run our lives individually, how to run our families, how to run our churches. But it teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in society. And that’s the reason as your congressman I hold the holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that.”
TPM reached out to a spokeswoman for Broun, but did not immediately receive a response.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
How about this one:
Boy, you swallow down the apologists' line of bullshit by the jugfull, don't you now...
The most shameful part, of course, is that the kinds of crap you get all frothy over are only going to resonate with people just as kool-aid-drenched as yourself. That is, their function is not to educate or -god forbid- convince; just to agitate. And you play your part well. The system works just as intended.
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How many children have Paul Brown's words murdered?
Isn't that kind of an important question? I mean, if the context is reality?
Last edited by Justin '77; 10-06-2012 at 11:34 AM.
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc être dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant à moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce être dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch
"Человек не может снять с себя ответственности за свои поступки." - L. Tolstoy
"[it] is no doubt obvious, the cult of the experts is both self-serving, for those who propound it, and fraudulent." - Noam Chomsky
There's still no difference between the two parties when it comes to torture, corporate corruption, and citizen's rights to privacy & due process.
Maybe that is why Republicans are working overtime to differentiate themselves by rejecting the last few thousand years of human scientific progress.
Those words, "temperate and moderate", are words either of political cowardice, or of cunning, or seduction. A thing, moderately good, is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper, is always a virtue; but moderation in principle, is a species of vice.
'82 - Once & always independent
Most likely the economic Hard Right gets its way with anti-worker legislation that creates lots of jobs -- with abysmal pay and no opportunity to leave. If there is any enhancement of prosperity, it is all for the few who are well connected or are already super-rich. Deflationary measures that the Libertarian wing of the GOP wants will cause a further collapse of the value of assets from real estate to securities that people are obliged to sell off for survival or surrender in bankruptcy. We have gotten a taste of government by lobbyist -- and more-of-the-same would make a travesty of the traditional relationship between the common man and politicians. Labor strife recently possible in the civilized method of collective bargaining will appear instead as strikes hardly distinguishable from riots.
More people might be working, but total pay to the non-rich even before tax shifts could be much less. There might be less unemployment but far more poverty. Think of the Gilded Age.
You may be right about war -- perhaps for control of markets, labor, or natural resources. Heck, that was what World War II was about even if the US, France, and Britain could use humanitarian ideals as ultimate weapons. The US and the People's Republic of China are far from natural allies. China got to prosper to the extent that it does as a supplier of cheap goods that can undercut US manufacturing on behalf of American economic elites whose ideal of a proletariat is the sort that can live in abject poverty and utter fear on behalf of bosses and tycoons. That is the Marxist stereotype, but plutocrats at their absolute fit that stereotype precisely.
American leadership would wage any Crisis war with utmost ruthlessness and savagery, especially if it has absolute power and no scruples. That is no assurance that any such war would go well for America.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
True. Plus, those who elected this guy bear the responsibility for doing so.
Most Republican politicians are right-wing extremists.2. Not all Republicans are Christians.
Oh the production value, it burns! I dunno, I had some hopes for Gary Johnson, but his campaign has been scattershot as he's hoping for millie support at the same time he's trying to exaggerate his social and fiscally conservative opinions on abortion and spending. At this point, he might steal some votes from Romney which is fine by me.
Jill Stein looked good for a second, too, but then I actually got in to the platform and found a lot of anti-science craziness of a slightly different brand than I'd normally expect from Republicans. Ok, I like the environment too, but I'm not ready to chuck out all research, energy, and medicine related to nuclear technology.
Those words, "temperate and moderate", are words either of political cowardice, or of cunning, or seduction. A thing, moderately good, is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper, is always a virtue; but moderation in principle, is a species of vice.
'82 - Once & always independent
There is no difference between the GOP and the ESTABLISHMENT Democrats on those issues. I would rather vote for the party which has some people on the good side rather than no people on the good side. It is incorrect to lump together, say, my DINO congressman Collin Peterson (who represents Big Ag more than anything else) with, say, congressman Keith Ellison, who is Minnesota's most progressive House member.
"I belong to no organized party, I am a Democrat." -Will Rogers.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Somebody expressing abject scientific ignorance should not be practicing medicine. I don't care if they are religious, but modern medicine is based on science and if you reject science you should not be a doctor.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
I'm not sure what platform plank you're reading, but does it say nuclear research should not be done, or that right now a higher priority is to invest in technologies that we know are safe and available and reduce global warming and pollution, such as wind and solar?
Last edited by Eric the Green; 10-06-2012 at 01:32 PM.
Unfortunately, I fear Fukushima has made Nuclear the hot potato nobody wants to touch. It doesn't help that the respected Minnesota Public Radio journalist Arnie Gundersen keeps engaging in scaremongering about Fukushima that gets thrown around the LW Blogosphere.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
I agree with you on this one.
