The polls have completely disregarded Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode. Virginia is in play for Obama. But according to 538, the polls are swinging wildly towards Romney.Originally Posted by JustPassingThrough
VA is certainly in play, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see Romney win it by 5 points.
"I see you got your fist out, say your peace and get out. Yeah I get the gist of it, but it's alright." - Jerry Garcia, 1987
I'm calling it now. Someone can gloat if it proves to be wrong, but I'm calling it now:
Ryan as an Xer will make the War Baby Biden look like an old Silent who's out of touch and past his expiration date.
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
VA is certainly in play, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see OBAMA win it by 5 points.
Non-partisan polls have on the whole showed President Obama tied or ahead almost the whole electoral season... and Virginia will be tough for Romney to win.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amoeba_proteus.ogg
Action image of a microbial shape-shifter. I am surprised that Mitt Romney hasn't been compared to an amoeba. Whatever is convenient for the moment...
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Joe is giving Ryan a new ***hole. Ryan looks stressed.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Not exciting, but he makes the Administration's point effectively.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Can anyone say jugular? On both parties. This is getting interesting.
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
Ryan is gonna need psychotherapy for PTSD by the time Biden is dome with him!
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
To hear Gary Johnson's VP, Judge Jim Gray's commentary. See below link;
http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryj...?v=OQqT-oE7Rr0
Oo! I'd love to. Does the Green Party candidate have a commentary as well? Might as well hear ALL sides.
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
Agreed.
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
So far Joe Biden is the aggressor -- and he has numbers on his side. Paul Ryan is supposed to be the numbers guy.
The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" (or) even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered... in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by (those) who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."
― C.S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters
Not that I know of.
Biden channeling Loyd Bentson: "Now you're Jack Kennedy???"
That's gonna leave a mark!
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Cheri Honkala apparently is:
http://www.jillstein.org/democracy_n..._cheri_honkala
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
I doubt many people are watching the VP debate, and doubt it will have much impact, but Biden is coming across as desperate, overcompensating for Obama's bad debate. The guy always looks like an old, loud-mouthed moron and a phony, but this is worse than usual. Way too angry and aggressive. Not going to help Obama at all. Ryan is winning by simply looking reasonable.
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"I see you got your fist out, say your peace and get out. Yeah I get the gist of it, but it's alright." - Jerry Garcia, 1987
I'm tuning out on this last portion of the debate... because the moderator went all Boomer and decided to rekindle the dying sparks of the Culture wars and get "personal" with the VP candidates. I want to hear the issues, not their personal stories.
~Chas'88
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
The Right are already getting their marching orders, whining about Biden being a "bully". What crybabies.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Yeah the culture war fluff really did sound post seasonal.
It's been for the most part of free wheelin' 90 plus minutes.
I enjoyed it.
I think the post debate commentary I'm hearing is mostly right. To the extent that it has any effect on the election (doubtful, although we'll see how many people watched), it will be overwhelmingly negative for Obama/Biden, particularly among women. Joe Biden is the id of the Democratic Party, in all its ugly splendor. What it portrays is a desperate administration that is losing its grip. Although Biden is always like that. They should have replaced him when they had the chance. I admit I didn't watch all of it, because I couldn't stand to hear Biden talk.
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"I see you got your fist out, say your peace and get out. Yeah I get the gist of it, but it's alright." - Jerry Garcia, 1987
LOL
You like Ryan are just not very believeable when you're trying to spin.
I think that Biden showed the puppy the old school tonight.
The fucking bastard Corporate Media tools are already trying to spin Biden destroying Ryan into a tie. Fuckers!!!
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
Unlike Ryan, JPT isn't lying, he's just delusional.
To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising a man who is starving to eat less.
-Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man under Socialism
And someone who spent their whole life emulating a non smoking version of Ayn Rand isn't delusional;?
I thought Biden did much better than Obama's performance. Ryan was able to score points as well. the problem with Biden is that his demeanor has diminished what could have been a strong performance.
