Since it's only fair that Boomers got the joke for Nursing homes, here's the Xer and Millie versions:

Xer - after working and slaving away to own their own houses they'll finally be able to do so by the time the High comes around. Good luck dragging these guys out of the houses they've worked the majority of their lives to own. They'll have poisoned cookies and pressure washers to deter New Idealist children from even thinking about setting a toe on their lawns. Their grandchildren however will be a completely different story as they'll carefully train and teach them how to properly rebel against their parents. Surprisingly one day they will stop shuffling out to the mailbox one morning and the neighborhood will fail to notice (thinking they've been dragged off by a relative to those prisons that pass for Nursing homes these days), and will only begin to complain when a particular odor starts to drift from the house. The Xers will die probably in the middle of doing a home repair, and their grandchildren, if not the neighbors, will be the ones to discover their dead and decaying bodies. The only way you could get these folks into a nursing home is if their Homie children pulled a fast one on them and said they were going out to get "spare parts" for the water heater that's 30 years old, only to find themselves abandoned to the Nursing prison--I mean, home that's the cheapest for their Homie children.

^^^Partially inspired from the elderhood of the Lost Generation, as well as the wishes of many an Xer.

The Millennial home experience will be a cerebral experience. Once again they'll be called "communities" only in the "Elderly Social Community" and they'll be quite social, not to mention free WiFi. The Millennial brain will be hooked up to a social network with the Internet. They will collectively think as a group and talk and chat in this online experience. Their bodies will be left mostly in neglect, except for in the case of how far the Homies are willing to take care of the Millies--but by then everything might be automated so that no Homie will have to get their hands dirty. Death won't exist as a concept for Millennials as their consciousness will be uploaded onto the "Elderly Social Community". However uploading each Millennial will require more and more space and memory and slow down the Internet, and it'll eventually take the Millennial's ungrateful Homie and New Prophet children to "unplug" and "delete" the Millennials from the Internet in order to take us back to the glory days of high speed internet.

^^^From MilliennialX & for Odin

~Chas'88

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

That doesn't mean we should elect Romney.

I have never suggested electing Romney. What I have consistently tried to do, is hold up the dirty rotten broken political system where both sides of the aisle are beholding to corporate power. In most instances, our side only wants to point out the major flaws of the other. This blinds us to how our side is also a large part of our democracy being dismantled. This blindness is fueling our demise.

The need for political change is very real. And change cannot happen until we, as Americans, decide to expect more from our country and those who are supposed to represent us. Instead, Obama has been given every excuse in the book for his participation in the problems that deeply affect our society. That is called enabling.

Change has always started with the people, not corporate owned politicians.

Chas, with all the deregulation talk going around, getting stuck in a thorny monster rose bush I am pruning and dieing of exposure might be preferable to a nursing home of the future where I could sit in my excrement for a week. I need to make my own plans, that's for sure.

Originally Posted by Aramea

Chas, with all the deregulation talk going around, getting stuck in a thorny monster rose bush I am pruning and dieing of exposure might be preferable to a nursing home of the future where I could sit in my excrement for a week. I need to make my own plans, that's for sure.

My Great Grandmother (A Lost) at the age of 91 called my Grandmother one day to inform her that she had a thorn from the rose bush stuck in her arm. My Grandmother arrived to find that the "thorn" was in fact a branch which had gone entirely through her forearm and into the bicep. Rose bushes have a notoriously hard time killing Nomads.

Originally Posted by Copperfield

My Great Grandmother (A Lost) at the age of 91 called my Grandmother one day to inform her that she had a thorn from the rose bush stuck in her arm. My Grandmother arrived to find that the "thorn" was in fact a branch which had gone entirely through her forearm and into the bicep. Rose bushes have a notoriously hard time killing Nomads.

Though apparently they do try. So Nomads, get rid of the rose bushes before they get rid of you.

~Chas'88

Considering that I used to find lots of my friends passed out in rose bushes the next morning after a killer party, it would be a fitting end.

Originally Posted by JustPassingThrough

There's nothing that oppresses women more than not being able to have sex without consequences and kill their own children. That's for sure. Especially when somebody else isn't forced to pay for it.

Sexual freedom includes the right to refuse sex. The reactionaries who have said that rape is a triviality or that a pregnancy, that rape resulting in a pregnancy may be the Will of God, or that 'some women rape easily' demonstrate what is at stake. Some of our political figures enable or encourage rape with such pronouncements.

Originally Posted by Chas'88

and it'll eventually take the Millennial's ungrateful Homie and New Prophet children to "unplug" and "delete" the Millennials from the Internet in order to take us back to the glory days of high speed internet.

^^^From MilliennialX & for Odin

~Chas'88

OMG, nooooooo!!!!

LOL!!!

Originally Posted by pbrower2a

Sexual freedom includes the right to refuse sex. The reactionaries who have said that rape is a triviality or that a pregnancy, that rape resulting in a pregnancy may be the Will of God, or that 'some women rape easily' demonstrate what is at stake. Some of our political figures enable or encourage rape with such pronouncements.

According to RWers like JPT things like date rape and spousal rape are not "legitimate" rape.

Looks like Romney is so desperate that his campaign workers are resorting to using Photoshop to make the crowds look larger, and they did a horrible, obvious job, too.

The Surreal media. For growing surreal times.

Originally Posted by Odin

According to RWers like JPT things like date rape and spousal rape are not "legitimate" rape.

Maybe it is time to revive a thread:

http://www.fourthturning.com/forum/s...m-and-Politics

Armed robbery is not quite as disgusting a crime as rape. Like rape it can get someone hurt badly -- and even murdered. I consider any armed robbery a potential murder and consider the prison term for attempted murder the appropriate sentence for any armed robbery. The armed robber would have to prove that the weapons are unloaded to beat a rap for attempted murder.

Would anyone excuse an armed robbery because a person or business is easy to rob? Hardly. Because something good happened from the armed robbery -- perhaps that the robber shot and killed a pedophile? Not likely to happen. That some kid knocked down for money for some video games got an unexpected but satisfying lesson on how the courts work? I wouldn't believe it.

Much as we liberals get a rap for moral relativism, we would seem to have no use for any moral relativism on rape. There may be some practical questions of whose testimony is to be believed, but wise people avoid doing deeds that might be interpreted as illegal, especially if the potential punishment is severe -- as with rape.

Who is being robbed?

Now Romney is saying that Obama can't work with congress. That was a neat trick. Congress refuses to work with the president on anything, blocking everything no matter what it is or how bipartisan it is, with the expressed purpose of ruining his chances for re-election. So then Romney can turn it around and say the president can't work with Congress.

I think what folks like Deb who are choosing this moment to knock and criticize Obama, as if the Left doesn't know his shortcomings, need to realize, is that it is getting ever tougher to move forward in this country, because in so many elections the government has moved ever further to the right. A Republican victory in Congress or for the presidency will move the country even further to the right, most likely for another 8 years. It will most likely then be impossible for a progressive agenda to be enacted ever again, barring a revolution, break-up of the country or civil war. And a progressive victory in such a tumultuous event is very questionable anyway. Even more repression is also a likely result. It is never good strategy for progressives to allow yet another right-wing takeover. The hoped-for disaster either never comes, or as we see now, in the wake of 2008-2009, is used for the benefit of those who caused it in the first place.

So are rose bushes the new Goldstein to be obliterated at the cost of all reason?

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

So funny! Kevin Smith has a good handle on generational characteristics, IMO.

Prince

You sure it wasn't Copperfield in that movie?

(It couldn't have been The Rani, but only because it was a guy)

Originally Posted by Seattleblue

Who is being robbed?

The comparison is between rape and armed robbery.

Ayup Rani, all those polichickens wanna do an ol' number 6 on us all.

Originally Posted by princeofcats67

Laugh riot, Chas! You're good. A little too good, actually....<Prince slowly takes a step backward> <snip smiley>

I have a new phrase for Xers: "Beware the Rides for Parts"!<snip smileys>

You guys once you get your claws into something, don't give it up easily. IMO it'll be those Homies you have to look out for, more than the Millennials.

"The Millennial Gen" will now be referred to in the singular tense:
Exs:
Whew! Close call! Three "Millennial" just tried to surround me and take away my smokes!
Hey Kid! What're the chances of getting Priority Mail on that "delete-order" for "The Millennial"?
Danger! Danger! "The Millennial" has achieved "Full Singularity"!
(As if that hasn't already happened)


Prince

PS: Let's just cram the words together into one: "Themillennial"!

Aren't you just full of applesauce?

That's not me, thank you very much, I much prefer the Xer way to go.

~Chas'88

Originally Posted by herbal tee

So are rose bushes the new Goldstein to be obliterated at the cost of all reason?

No this frightening menace was foretold by the Lost Generation. Gives a whole new meaning to the end of Citizen Kane, now doesn't it?

~Chas'88

Why the race is supposedly close:

AP poll: Majority harbor prejudice against blacks

Originally Posted by Eric the Green

Now Romney is saying that Obama can't work with congress. That was a neat trick. Congress refuses to work with the president on anything, blocking everything no matter what it is or how bipartisan it is, with the expressed purpose of ruining his chances for re-election. So then Romney can turn it around and say the president can't work with Congress.

I think what folks like Deb who are choosing this moment to knock and criticize Obama, as if the Left doesn't know his shortcomings, need to realize, is that it is getting ever tougher to move forward in this country, because in so many elections the government has moved ever further to the right. A Republican victory in Congress or for the presidency will move the country even further to the right, most likely for another 8 years. It will most likely then be impossible for a progressive agenda to be enacted ever again, barring a revolution, break-up of the country or civil war. And a progressive victory in such a tumultuous event is very questionable anyway. Even more repression is also a likely result. It is never good strategy for progressives to allow yet another right-wing takeover. The hoped-for disaster either never comes, or as we see now, in the wake of 2008-2009, is used for the benefit of those who caused it in the first place.

Does a voice of warning halt itself just because there is a multi-billion dollar election season going on? I wonder if the relatives of children and babies who are being blown to pieces by Obama's cowardly drones would ask me to stop asking that people awaken to what he is doing in our name.

Do we conveniently forget his first two years of a Democratic congress? A time when he could have made some headway instead of chasing Republicans, taking our country further to the right.

It's bad enough that Obama's Kill List is wrong -- wrong, wrong, wrong -- on its face. I know many of you won't admit it simply because it's Obama doing it, whereas if it were Bush, you'd be screaming bloody murder. But if you think this Kill List won't further inflame people and create new enemies, AND migrate to home turf to boot, then you really have your head in the sand. And when a president comes along who's even worse, who's even more rapacious at deciding just who is a terrorist -- including dissidents -- and "disposing" of them, you'll have Obama to thank.
- Lisa Simeone

Raped by My Stepfather: A Survivor of Illegal Abortion On Why Safe, Legal Abortion is Essential

This week, Indiana GOP Senate candidate Richard Mourdock argued in a debate that women who have been raped should not have access to abortion services because their pregnancies are a "gift from god." As a survivor of childhood sexual violence, I disagree with him completely.

My name is Dawn Hill. Though I am old now, there was a time when I was young and carefree as you perhaps are now or can remember being in your childhood. Childhood should be a happy and carefree time for all our children, but my mother found her new husband, my stepfather, much more important. He forever took the joy away from my life when I was just 11 years old: He began molesting me and continued until he began raping me when I was 13.

Mr. Mourdock last night said: "I came to realize life is that gift from God, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape. It is something that God intended to happen."

I became pregnant, contrary to the "scientific theories" of many modern Republicans. Not only was the experience loathsome and painful, it was also impossible for me to deal with or talk about because of the times: in the fifties, abortion was illegal. Illegal in the same way the Republican Party platform states it wants to make abortion now by constitutional amendment and just as Presidential candidate Mitt Romney has suggested casually he would "be delighted" to return to.

Please, take a moment to travel back to the fifties with me.

My mother took me to Mexico, where anyone could get an abortion for a price. I have blocked out many memories associated with this entire experience, but I remember the pain. Illegal abortions are not the simple safe vacuum procedure used today by legal abortion providers. Oh, no: They were a "dilatation and curettage."

This means that my cervix was mechanically opened by insertion of larger and larger metal "dilators" until it was opened enough to get a sort of sharpened spoon inside my 13-year-old uterus, while strangers looked at my exposed parts that were theretofore called "private."

It was cold and dirty in the room, and then the true torture started. They shoved this curette into me and scraped away the entire lining of my uterus with the sharp side. I screamed the entire time even though no one had seen so much as a tear out of me before this moment because I had developed a stony stoicism to protect my mind from the molestation.

This pain was, however, like nothing I've ever felt before or since. Can you imagine what happened to those women and girls who couldn't even get this barbaric abortion? They stuck wire hangers into themselves and bled to death or suffered other horrible complications. Then, too, I also got a terrible infection from the filthy conditions.

I can tell you, though, that I would have gotten a hundred illegal abortions before carrying that monster's offspring and going through labor, even to give the child away. That would have been the unkindest cut of all.

For women and girls, safe legal abortions are essential. While many will choose a different path than I with their pregnancies, having that choice is essential. Any encroachment on that right is an encroachment on the life, liberty, and safety of the women and girls of America.

http://news.investors.com/100312-627...ny.aspx?p=full

Originally Posted by playwrite

With this obsession with Barney, maybe you and he should get a room for the night? Who cares what Barney said...

-As I've covered before, Congresscritter Frank was the chair of the House's Finance Committee, responsibel for the financial debacle:

Originally Posted by JDG 66

-
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...e_to_the_facts

[Congresscritter Barney Frank said] "... it was a great mistake to push lower-income people into housing they couldn't afford and couldn't really handle once they had it... I had been too sanguine about Fannie and Freddie."

...even the NYT figured that out as early as 1999:

Originally Posted by JDG 66

Originally Posted by JDG 66

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fannie_Mae

In 1999, The New York Times reported that with the corporation's move towards the subprime market "Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980s."

...I hope Playdude can put two and two together now.

Originally Posted by playwrite

...There's nothing wrong with living in a trailer park if that is all that your means can afford...

-So, only the poverty stricken live in trailers?

Playwrong really needs to get out of that apartment.

Originally Posted by playwrite

...I think Brian has you beat hands down. In fact, your really not in the same league as he...

1) I didn't realize that getting published was a speed contest. I have all the time in the world;

2) Brian is honest here:

Originally Posted by Brian Rush

Actually, being published is no longer a challenge. Anyone can be published; all you have to do is upload a book, properly formatted, to Amazon and boom! you're published. That's a huge consequence of the digital revolution...

...if you actually looked at BR's book list, you'd see that most of them are free, or cheaper than a used paperback.

I will do better than that.

Originally Posted by playwrite

... I've noted in my career most of my critics are in the same boat as you.

-Oh. Is this a return to Playfraud's claim of being Mr. Broadway? I just debunked his "Marine BS", so hey, why not?

Originally Posted by Kurt Horner

You could always try it. This 4T has been kind of boring so far. Seriously, I was promised an epic bloodbath . . . but so far conservatives are just a bunch of wussy cry-babies. Say what you will about the rebels who fired on Ft. Sumter, but at least they knew how to throw a tantrum. Today's reactionaries are just pathetic by comparison.

-Bad analogy. Outside of generally wanting a low tariff, the Confederates were the anti-capitalists/anti-free market types.

Originally Posted by Odin

Raped by My Stepfather: A Survivor of Illegal Abortion On Why Safe, Legal Abortion is Essential

-None of this answers as to why the fetus should pay for the rapist's crime.