Originally Posted by JustPassingThrough

The problem is that where we were already sucked. The fact that it wasn't as bad as it theoretically could be (if the Democrats had won the House) is pretty thin gruel as far as consolation goes. The economy is not going to improve, and the country is going to be more divided, not less. S&H's prediction about Xers getting screwed in every stage of life is looking pretty accurate.

Xers will get screwed if they continue to believe the pure horseshit about federal deficit spending being a problem in an economy that is demand starved. They will get screwed if they don't wake up and see that the long term trend is constant pressure for a demand-starved economy to continue.

Xers buy into the ruse of federal deficit spending because of the propaganda of big evil govt coming to eat their freedom fries. As long as Xers buy into that horseshit, the longer they will remained sheeple and yep, sheeple are doomed to getting screwed.

Pretty simple.

Originally Posted by JDFP

The big distinction is that Reagan could work with Tip O'Neill. Reagan could converse with Tip O'Neill to accomplish things. O'Neill may have been woefully wrong on his ideology - but the man put the country before his politics. The distinction today is between Obama and Boehner which is a far greater rift from Reagan and O'Neill because O'Neill and Reagan were friends even if they disagreed (the old saying is that before 6PM they were bitter rivals but after 6PM they were friends). I can't picture Obama and Boehner going out for drinks and "hanging" out as friends. And this serves as a great detriment to this nation. If Obama wants to accomplish anything in his second term he must become a centrist as Clinton did in his second term. Otherwise, we will grow closer to the cold front of politics as we have had the last few years with not a damn thing accomplished. And that will serve as a major hindrance to our nation.

j.p.

Nice try.

Obama isn't going to fall for that horseshit in the second term. Sure, he needs to mouth the words of bipartisanship, but if he's not nailing McConnell and Boehner/Cantor testicles to the wall every chance he gets, I will be very disappointed.

Originally Posted by playwrite

Nice try.

Obama isn't going to fall for that horseshit in the second term. Sure, he needs to mouth the words of bipartisanship, but if he's not nailing McConnell and Boehner/Cantor testicles to the wall every chance he gets, I will be very disappointed.

I look forward to him trying. Like I said, and I'll stand by it, Obama won't do a damn thing in the next two years - it won't pass Congress. Boehner and others will stand up to his bullshit and rub it off their sleeves.

j.p.

Originally Posted by JustPassingThrough

Well said, colorful language notwithstanding. Make me king, and I'll improve things. Otherwise, the country is what it is. I'm just one out of 300 million+. When I figure out how to single-handedly, as a private citizen, fix the economy and the complete societal breakdown we've been experiencing I'll get back to you.

Screw'em. To be honest, I could give two shits about what happens to Democrats. I know one thing, I have no plans as far as business growth. The Democrats can just stay unemployed, loose their jobs, continue voting for more government support that won't be coming and get squashed during the financial crunch as far I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

Screw'em. To be honest, I could give two shits about what happens to Democrats. I know one thing, I have no plans as far as business growth. The Democrats can just stay unemployed, loose their jobs, continue voting for more government support that won't be coming and get squashed during the financial crunch as far I'm concerned.

I'd just like to add that I hope they enjoy their food stamps provided by General Secretary Obama!

As far as me, I won't stop working as hard as I have the last four years - and I look forward to someone like Rand Paul or a man or woman of his character standing up in a few years. After the disastrous second term of Obama, it will be most welcome.

j.p.

Originally Posted by JustPassingThrough

I want to make it clear that this is the last time I will ever read one of your posts, let alone respond to them. You've shown very clearly what you, and "your side" are about. You are a disgrace to humanity.

That said: You seem to not realize how close this election is. Obama's margin in FL, OH and VA is less than 1% in each state. The tiniest shift in the popular vote would have given it to Romney. In addition, I never predicted anything. If the election had been held a week ago, Romney probably would have won. Obama had a slight bounce back in the past week, and that was barely enough for him to limp across the line.

None of that matters in your twisted little world. Have a good life, good luck with being a scumbag. Hope it works out for you.

Oh, and we were going to be such bipartisan bosom buddies. What a shame.

You all drove us into the ditch 4 years ago and then scream and bitch about Obama not pulling us out fast enough. And then there was the lies. Republicans now lie about every thing, all the time, over and over, and over again.

All that and you still lost. The demographics are against you. Your brand is becoming more and more toxic with the electorate. You're spent. Bye-bye. Don't let the door slam you in the ass as you go.

Originally Posted by playwrite

Xers will get screwed if they continue to believe the pure horseshit about federal deficit spending being a problem in an economy that is demand starved. They will get screwed if they don't wake up and see that the long term trend is constant pressure for a demand-starved economy to continue.

Xers buy into the ruse of federal deficit spending because of the propaganda of big evil govt coming to eat their freedom fries. As long as Xers buy into that horseshit, the longer they will remained sheeple and yep, sheeple are doomed to getting screwed.

Pretty simple.

Xr's are going to be screwed either way. The Millies are going to be screwed the worst. The boomers are going to find themselves being screwed during the process.

Originally Posted by JDFP

I look forward to him trying. Like I said, and I'll stand by it, Obama won't do a damn thing in the next two years - it won't pass Congress. Boehner and others will stand up to his bullshit and rub it off their sleeves.

j.p.

Won't have to wait that long. Let's see what happens with the "Fiscal Cliff."

I say by January even JPT will get that there's a re-new sheriff in town.

Originally Posted by playwrite

Oh, and we were going to be such bipartisan bosom buddies. What a shame.

You all drove us into the ditch 4 years ago and then scream and bitch about Obama not pulling us out fast enough. And then there was the lies. Republicans now lie about every thing, all the time, over and over, and over again.

All that and you still lost. The demographics are against you. Your brand is becoming more and more toxic with the electorate. You're spent. Bye-bye. Don't let the door slam you in the ass as you go.

I'll take all the Trumps and the corportations and the vast majority of business and all the workers and you can have the rest.

Originally Posted by The Rani

You know what, you're right. The Democratic Party has been leaning Right since Clinton.
What I should have said is that you've done a great job of moving so-called Progressives to the Right.
That's why the Repubs have no where to go except freaky comments about rape. Everything else on The Right is already taken.
So live it up!

Bingo.

~Chas'88

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

Screw'em. To be honest, I could give two shits about what happens to Democrats. I know one thing, I have no plans as far as business growth. The Democrats can just stay unemployed, loose their jobs, continue voting for more government support that won't be coming and get squashed during the financial crunch as far I'm concerned.

That comes pretty close to what could be the motto for what passes for the Right today.

It's why you all are headed to being just a regional party.

But don't worry, those of us in the Blue States will keep sending our federal taxes to keep you all functioning ... and hopefully, you all will start eating better and loss some of that obesity - I think that might be why you all are so cranky all the time.

Originally Posted by Ghost Echo

No matter who you voted for, I believe we can all agree that this is the best thing to come from today
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3ro0ti/
Where I live this is really bad, as we have to be assaulted by races in two states.

*clap*

~Chas'88

For those who voted for Virgil Goode in VA.

You all pulled about 11,000 votes from Romney!

Thanks!

Originally Posted by The Rani

I'm sure you're not the only one who feels that way, either.
Time to circle the wagons, Gen X?

What another Xer circle jerk???

When are you all going to grow up and stop playing with yourselves?

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

I'll take all the Trumps and the corportations and the vast majority of business and all the workers and you can have the rest.

I live in NYC not some numbnut Red State backwoods. I'm pretty sure where the economic center of the country would remain.

Oh, but you can have the Donald; he's a nothin burger. And would be even less so if he left the City.

Originally Posted by playwrite

That comes pretty close to what could be the motto for what passes for the Right today.

It's why you all are headed to being just a regional party.

But don't worry, those of us in the Blue States will keep sending our federal taxes to keep you all functioning ... and hopefully, you all will start eating better and loss some of that obesity - I think that might be why you all are so cranky all the time.

I hope the opportunity comes to put you and your views to the test.

Originally Posted by playwrite

I live in NYC not some numbnut Red State backwoods. I'm pretty sure where the economic center of the country would remain.

Oh, but you can have the Donald; he's a nothin burger. And would be even less so if he left the City.

The economic center of the country has been leaving for decades yet you still believe that it would remain. You're a blue urban numbnut who is still clinging to magic ponies.

Ummm marijuana has been legalized in Colorado and Washington. So yay road trip time!

Originally Posted by The Rani

It was a simple question, and not addressed to you.
If 49% of Americans are still against whatever you want to force upon them ... well, good luck with that.

And my question was addressed to you. It is actually more germane to today as well.

You all getting in another circle again is pretty passe. Maybe you all will come up with some new tattoo designs?

Originally Posted by Classic-X'er

I hope the opportunity comes to put you and your views to the test.

It's pretty obvious you hate this country and pray for its failure. Why are you still here? Cowardliness perhaps?

Originally Posted by JustPassingThrough

What I have to wonder is what all those people who voted for Obama were thinking. I know for many of them it was just about race, and for the hard left it's just dogma. But for the ones who made the difference, I have no idea what was going through their mind. How is anything going to get better now?

I can only speak for myself, but it has nothing to do with race or thinking that Obama is a "hard left" guy.

Obama pretty much sucks, just not nearly as bad as Romney. What Romney calls "capitalism" is a quick flip that drains the value out of an institution and puts it in his pocket. What Romney calls "religion" is even nuttier.

Beyond that, we don't really know where Romney stands on anything, because he's stood on both sides of every issue - at least once.

The Democrats have won complete control of the Minnesota legislature and the anti-Gay Marriage and Voter ID amendments failed.

Minnesota's gridlock is over, we now have a functioning government.

Originally Posted by playwrite

It's pretty obvious you hate this country and pray for its failure. Why are you still here? Cowardliness perhaps?

He must be bitter that his fellow Minnesotans rejected the Teabaggers at the polls last night.

Originally Posted by millennialX

Did Clinton reach across the aisle or did he just submit to the Republicans? Does this have to be a one way deal?

"The real thing that has killed us in the last 10 years is that too much of our deal making creativity has been devoted to expanding the financial sector in ways that don't create new businesses and more jobs and to persuading people to take on excessive debt loads to make up for the fact that their incomes are stagnant." ..... Bill Clinton

He should know because his deals helped create the current financial crisis.

Clinton signed off on the reversal of the Glass-Steagall Act, the legislative jewel of the Franklin Roosevelt administration designed to prevent financial institutions from getting too big to fail. In signing the Financial Services Modernization Act, which broke down the barrier between high-rolling Wall Street investment firms and consumer banks carrying the deposits of ordinary folk, Clinton gushed in 1999, "Over the [past] seven years we have tried to modernize the economy... And today what we are doing is modernizing the financial services industry, tearing down those antiquated laws and granting banks significant new authority."

The first beneficiary of that legislation was Citigroup, a corporation that resulted from a merger that would have been banned by Glass-Steagall. Upon signing the law, Clinton handed one of the pens he used to a beaming Sandy Weill, Citigroup CEO and a close friend and financial supporter of the president. Clinton's treasury secretary, Robert Rubin, then went off to be a $15-million-a-year exec at Citigroup and was in a key position there when the bank made those toxic derivative packages that would have forced it into bankruptcy had U.S. taxpayers not bailed the bank out.

Yes, as through this world I've rambled
I've seen lots of funny men;
Some will rob you with a six-gun,
And some with a fountain pen.

Just read that the Dems have a supermajority in the California Legislature, that means the Teabaggers can't block tax increases on the rich.