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Post#12026 at 11-07-2012 03:32 PM by Aramea [at joined Jan 2011 #posts 743]
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
I'm not worried about myself, my family or the bulk of my friends and I've completely dropped the little bit of concern there was for WORKING DEMOCRATS like the friends who currently rely on private sector performance and economic growth. As it is now, I've dropped all my plans relative to building up a business and I'm gonna focus on making enough money for myself and my family.
Anyone else see the problem(s) here ?? You were going to "build up a business" for concern for "working democrats" and not to make money for yourself and family?







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Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
Still insecure I see! It's not about me, but it IS about me to the extent that my predictions have proven right again. Smart people DO go around doing that, in fact, if they want to be heard. If you believe in results and a track record, then it is wise to pay attention to me instead of psychoanalyzing me instead. But then, that's who you are I guess.... and it's OK.........
According to your charts, we have a period of social unrest coming. Common sense lead me to the same conclusion a long time ago.







Post#12028 at 11-07-2012 03:32 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
You mean, between your imagination and a thing that actually happens? It's not that hard for most adults at all. And decent people recognize that the very phrase 'occasional murders', in the dismissive tone you give it, is a big flashing "MONSTER!! DO NOT FEED!!!" sign.

I echo Indy's appreciation to you for continuing to act as clear archetype here. Nobody would believe such a thing actually existed if you weren't there to put it right in front of their eyes.

By analogy -

On the one hand, we have a city of 1 million people. There is crime. People on occasion get killed as a result of that crime. Sometimes, its the police that kill. Sometimes innocent people get caught in the cross fire and get killed. Total deaths are around 1000 and 10% of those are of the innocent.

On the other hand, we have several cities of 1 million with some 10 or 20 million. They've all been nuked and everyone died. The radioactivity has put in doubt not only humans but entire ecosystems far removed from those immediately impacted and the radioactivity is now circulating the globe with unknown consequences.

Here's the choice before you, which scenario do you want to live through?

This isn't really hard. It's not really a matter of innate intelligence. What it is truly is a matter of emotional intelligence - have you broken through the bonds of adolescence. Do you still believe that if mommy doesn't give you every possible thing you want, you are just going to stay in your room, read Ayn Rand and tell everyone that they just don't understand?

May I just suggest growing up?
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Post#12029 at 11-07-2012 03:34 PM by Deb C [at joined Aug 2004 #posts 6,099]
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No words needed. The only image that might be more accurate would be him riding a drone with a kill list in his hand.

"The only Good America is a Just America." .... pbrower2a







Post#12030 at 11-07-2012 03:36 PM by Aramea [at joined Jan 2011 #posts 743]
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Quote Originally Posted by JohnMc82 View Post
If I remember right, these HOAs were losing influence in the 80s and early 90s as the culture wars became a full-time occupation. If the 4T settles it, they'll come back to their neighborhoods just in time for a "picture perfect" 1T of standardized fences and pristine lawns.

And, of course, this will eventually spawn the cults & communes of the 2T.
They are very popular in Atlanta and surrounding suburbs. The "small government" conservatives in my area don't consider it intrusive in the least to make you fill out a form and wait 4-6 weeks for Mommy to say it's OK to paint your house the exact same color, remove dead pine trees or repair your roof.







Post#12031 at 11-07-2012 03:38 PM by Deb C [at joined Aug 2004 #posts 6,099]
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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
As with before, you-plural, exclusive of anyone to whom it doesn't apply.
I just have to continue keeping my record straight for when we are driven off that fiscal cliff, or worse.
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Post#12032 at 11-07-2012 03:41 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Decided to fact check that one and found this:

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?Ind=F
And just to be clear. Krugman was talking specifically about 2012 election and Obama.

Rani gives you previous elections, and at the web site, the donations identified are to party not to candidates. One would have to assume that Senator Schumer and other Dems controlling the Senate Finance Committee can command a lot of donations from the financial sector.

That's not what happened in 2012 for Obama and that is what Krugman is pointing out. Obama owes them absolutely nothing for the next four years.

Sometimes one's ideology can blind them to some pretty interesting insights.
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Post#12033 at 11-07-2012 03:46 PM by playwrite [at NYC joined Jul 2005 #posts 10,443]
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
Live by the bailout, die by its debts. Live by the market, die by the market. Live by the T-bill, die by the T-bill. BTW, your smiles don't bring tears to my eyes and your sides eventual demise won't bring tears to my eyes either.
Ah, most of the bailouts have been paid off and actually turned a 'profit' to the govt. (it's not really 'profit' because the money just goes back into the ether from which it was issues - but that's another story).

Your dream for crocodile tears is a fool's dream. I'm wondering how many years its going to take for that light bulb to every go off in that head of yours. Its been at least five so far and not a shred of evidence that you might exit magic pony land.
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Post#12034 at 11-07-2012 03:46 PM by Justin '77 [at Meh. joined Sep 2001 #posts 12,182]
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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
By analogy -

On the one hand, we have.....[etc]
Allow me offer another, just-as-imaginary analogy.

On the one hand, we have tasty, tasty lemon pie, laced with poison. On the other hand, we have the evil mole people with their wizards and laser beams. Isn't pie so very much yummier? Even if it's got lots of arsenic and mercury in it?

I mean,.. wizards! ... and LASER BEAMS!!!

I think the choice is clear.
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Post#12035 at 11-07-2012 03:46 PM by Chas'88 [at In between Pennsylvania & Pennsyltucky joined Nov 2008 #posts 9,432]
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
Lawns are for dogs to run around and kids to play on.
I'm sure you're well aware of it, but the fact was he was comparing you to the elderly Lost of his childhood.

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Quote Originally Posted by JohnMc82 View Post
Excuse me for assuming you were talking about political or economic hegemony in the Politics & Economics sub-forum.

I look forward to your thoughts on cultural hegemony in the Culture & Values sub-forum!

Oh wait, we've already established that you have a problem with categorization. Do you need help finding it, sir? I'll even help you cross the street!
Pretty poor attempt at diversion, but I'll let it go.
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Quote Originally Posted by Deb C View Post
I have consistently held Obama accountable. And I didn't vote for him.
Took the easy way, hey?

That's okay, more fights to come.
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Post#12038 at 11-07-2012 03:52 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Quote Originally Posted by Deb C View Post
No words needed. The only image that might be more accurate would be him riding a drone with a kill list in his hand.

One could only wish for the picture, and not the more-accurate one. Unfortunately he left a lot of work undone. The House is still in the hands of the robber-barons. He waged a lone-ranger campaign, in the words of Mark Shields. He thinks of himself as like the picture. He thinks he can wave a wand and transform greedy sociopaths like Boehner and Bachmann into guardians of the public good. I told him over and over to demand a congress he could work with. He didn't do that, so he will not really be the man on a magic pony that he thinks he is.
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
I'm not worried about myself, my family or the bulk of my friends and I've completely dropped the little bit of concern there was for WORKING DEMOCRATS like the friends who currently rely on private sector performance and economic growth. As it is now, I've dropped all my plans relative to building up a business and I'm gonna focus on making enough money for myself and my family.
Why is it that you think any one here gives a shit?
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Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


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Post#12040 at 11-07-2012 03:54 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Why not ask your crystal ball what ETA means, Mr. Smart Guy?
Why do you continue to use it in your posts when it is absolutely meaningless, smart gal?

I can envision Green Communities and Jesus Communities popping up all over the damned place.
The former a legacy of the 2T, and the latter a legacy of the late 2T and 3T.
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Post#12041 at 11-07-2012 03:55 PM by Classic-X'er [at joined Sep 2012 #posts 1,789]
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Quote Originally Posted by Aramea View Post
Anyone else see the problem(s) here ?? You were going to "build up a business" for concern for "working democrats" and not to make money for yourself and family?
I was going to build up a company which would have created new jobs. This may surprise you, I actually make more money working for myself than having employees working for me.







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Quote Originally Posted by JohnMc82 View Post
If I remember right, these HOAs were losing influence in the 80s and early 90s as the culture wars became a full-time occupation. If the 4T settles it, they'll come back to their neighborhoods just in time for a "picture perfect" 1T of standardized fences and pristine lawns.

And, of course, this will eventually spawn the cults & communes of the 2T.
Ah, a cycle where the current crop of Libertarians gets to experience the trade-off of one big bully (that you can vote out ever 2-4 years) for the innumerable small bullies.

Just try to be the first to have the toll road out of town, otherwise you'll be stuck in whateve hellhole you find yourself.
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Post#12043 at 11-07-2012 04:00 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Quote Originally Posted by Classic-X'er View Post
I was going to build up a company which would have created new jobs. This may surprise you, I actually make more money working for myself than having employees working for me.
Disuaded by the fear, no doubt, that you might need to pay them a living wage and provide adequate working conditions.
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Quote Originally Posted by Deb C View Post
No words needed. The only image that might be more accurate would be him riding a drone with a kill list in his hand.



That's sooooo 2008. I'm sure that's the pic that most people had who saw him as the Second Coming in 2008 and then turned on him later when he, well, became just another human.

I think you'd be hard press to find anyone with those expectations today. The ones coming up with these pics are just those still so disappointed to the point that they've become catatonic with getting anything actually done.
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Post#12045 at 11-07-2012 04:02 PM by Eric the Green [at San Jose CA joined Jul 2001 #posts 22,504]
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
It's not meaningless. PoS gave you an entire list to choose from, and you still couldn't figure it out.
Which is one example of why it sort of cracks me up that you put yourself out there as a Source of Wisdom.
If you want to do that with others, and they buy it, fine. But if you want to lecture me and tell me to listen ... no thanks.
Boy you just love to continue on a path of nonsense; it is rather amusing

What does a whole list of totally-irrelevant meanings have to do with any discussion on this board?

If you are not interested in predictions, why are you on a discussion board dedicated to that purpose?

Why indeed.........
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Quote Originally Posted by The Rani View Post
Have you read Goleman's book?
Actually, I dictated it to him and let him take the credit.

I did that to prove my onw high EI.

I know, that's just so wrong on so many levels.
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Quote Originally Posted by Justin '77 View Post
Allow me offer another, just-as-imaginary analogy.

On the one hand, we have tasty, tasty lemon pie, laced with poison. On the other hand, we have the evil mole people with their wizards and laser beams. Isn't pie so very much yummier? Even if it's got lots of arsenic and mercury in it?

I mean,.. wizards! ... and LASER BEAMS!!!

I think the choice is clear.
And you wonder why the magic pony land has stuck to you.
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Its not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. Its much more akin to printing money. - B.Bernanke


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Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Green View Post
Disuaded by the fear, no doubt, that you might need to pay them a living wage and provide adequate working conditions.
TOUCH


Another 2 thumbs up!
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Make it stop, PW, make it stop!

Holy cow, this is incredible -

Heidi Heitkamp pulls out another of the improbable Senate wins for Democrats as Republican Rick Berg conceded Wednesday afternoon.
Frickin North Dakota????!!!!

Oh, another woman in the Senate - wow.
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"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman

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Quote Originally Posted by playwrite View Post
Why is it that you think any one here gives a shit?
I don't think anyone on your side gives a shit about jobs and the economy. I think the bulk of the posters here are liberal spoon feds who are more interested in their social issues and political gains. My only concern is relative to the nature of our eventual split. I don't see the two America's staying together for the long term without another war being fought to keep America together.
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