By analogy -
On the one hand, we have a city of 1 million people. There is crime. People on occasion get killed as a result of that crime. Sometimes, it’s the police that kill. Sometimes innocent people get caught in the cross fire and get killed. Total deaths are around 1000 and 10% of those are of the innocent.
On the other hand, we have several cities of 1 million with some 10 or 20 million. They've all been nuked and everyone died. The radioactivity has put in doubt not only humans but entire ecosystems far removed from those immediately impacted and the radioactivity is now circulating the globe with unknown consequences.
Here's the choice before you, which scenario do you want to live through?
This isn't really hard. It's not really a matter of innate intelligence. What it is truly is a matter of emotional intelligence - have you broken through the bonds of adolescence. Do you still believe that if mommy doesn't give you every possible thing you want, you are just going to stay in your room, read Ayn Rand and tell everyone that they just don't understand?
May I just suggest growing up?
Last edited by playwrite; 11-07-2012 at 03:57 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
No words needed. The only image that might be more accurate would be him riding a drone with a kill list in his hand.
"The only Good America is a Just America." .... pbrower2a
They are very popular in Atlanta and surrounding suburbs. The "small government" conservatives in my area don't consider it intrusive in the least to make you fill out a form and wait 4-6 weeks for Mommy to say it's OK to paint your house the exact same color, remove dead pine trees or repair your roof.
And just to be clear. Krugman was talking specifically about 2012 election and Obama.
Rani gives you previous elections, and at the web site, the donations identified are to party not to candidates. One would have to assume that Senator Schumer and other Dems controlling the Senate Finance Committee can command a lot of donations from the financial sector.
That's not what happened in 2012 for Obama and that is what Krugman is pointing out. Obama owes them absolutely nothing for the next four years.
Sometimes one's ideology can blind them to some pretty interesting insights.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Ah, most of the bailouts have been paid off and actually turned a 'profit' to the govt. (it's not really 'profit' because the money just goes back into the ether from which it was issues - but that's another story).
Your dream for crocodile tears is a fool's dream. I'm wondering how many years it’s going to take for that light bulb to every go off in that head of yours. It’s been at least five so far and not a shred of evidence that you might exit magic pony land.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Allow me offer another, just-as-imaginary analogy.
On the one hand, we have tasty, tasty lemon pie, laced with poison. On the other hand, we have the evil mole people with their wizards and laser beams. Isn't pie so very much yummier? Even if it's got lots of arsenic and mercury in it?
I mean,.. wizards! ... and LASER BEAMS!!!
I think the choice is clear.
Last edited by Justin '77; 11-07-2012 at 03:49 PM. Reason: punctuation is key
"Qu'est-ce que c'est que cela, la loi ? On peut donc être dehors. Je ne comprends pas. Quant à moi, suis-je dans la loi ? suis-je hors la loi ? Je n'en sais rien. Mourir de faim, est-ce être dans la loi ?" -- Tellmarch
"Человек не может снять с себя ответственности за свои поступки." - L. Tolstoy
"[it] is no doubt obvious, the cult of the experts is both self-serving, for those who propound it, and fraudulent." - Noam Chomsky
"There have always been people who say: "The war will be over someday." I say there's no guarantee the war will ever be over. Naturally a brief intermission is conceivable. Maybe the war needs a breather, a war can even break its neck, so to speak. But the kings and emperors, not to mention the pope, will always come to its help in adversity. ON the whole, I'd say this war has very little to worry about, it'll live to a ripe old age."
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
One could only wish for the picture, and not the more-accurate one. Unfortunately he left a lot of work undone. The House is still in the hands of the robber-barons. He waged a lone-ranger campaign, in the words of Mark Shields. He thinks of himself as like the picture. He thinks he can wave a wand and transform greedy sociopaths like Boehner and Bachmann into guardians of the public good. I told him over and over to demand a congress he could work with. He didn't do that, so he will not really be the man on a magic pony that he thinks he is.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Last edited by Eric the Green; 11-07-2012 at 03:59 PM.
Ah, a cycle where the current crop of Libertarians gets to experience the trade-off of one big bully (that you can vote out ever 2-4 years) for the innumerable small bullies.
Just try to be the first to have the toll road out of town, otherwise you'll be stuck in whateve hellhole you find yourself.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
That's sooooo 2008. I'm sure that's the pic that most people had who saw him as the Second Coming in 2008 and then turned on him later when he, well, became just another human.
I think you'd be hard press to find anyone with those expectations today. The ones coming up with these pics are just those still so disappointed to the point that they've become catatonic with getting anything actually done.
Last edited by playwrite; 11-07-2012 at 04:08 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Boy you just love to continue on a path of nonsense; it is rather amusing
What does a whole list of totally-irrelevant meanings have to do with any discussion on this board?
If you are not interested in predictions, why are you on a discussion board dedicated to that purpose?
Why indeed.........
Last edited by playwrite; 11-07-2012 at 04:10 PM.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
Holy cow, this is incredible -
Frickin North Dakota????!!!!Heidi Heitkamp pulls out another of the improbable Senate wins for Democrats as Republican Rick Berg conceded Wednesday afternoon.
Oh, another woman in the Senate - wow.
"The Devil enters the prompter's box and the play is ready to start" - R. Service
“It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed … so, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money.” - B.Bernanke
"Keep your filthy hands off my guns while I decide what you can & can't do with your uterus" - Sarah Silverman
If you meet a magic pony on the road, kill it. - Playwrite
I don't think anyone on your side gives a shit about jobs and the economy. I think the bulk of the posters here are liberal spoon feds who are more interested in their social issues and political gains. My only concern is relative to the nature of our eventual split. I don't see the two America's staying together for the long term without another war being fought to keep America together.