Were the gains in 1930 big for the Dems? They'd probably be much bigger than the change in 2002, if they were what you suggest. It seems safe though to say now that there weren't any huge net gains.Originally Posted byNumber Two

Yep, adding that 10 points we can safely do.looks like it will be more republican... +10If the House becomes more Republican as a net change, add 10 points. If it becomes more Democratic, subtract 10 points.

Oooooooh...I didn't list what to do if the Senate has 50 but not 51 Republicans (which it looks like it may be). Would that be adding points but not as many as 5? Or what if we get a 49/49 split? I guess that would involve subtracting a few points because it shows a 3T-ish perfect division of America? (And the change, while not adding any new Republicans, would change 1 Democrat seat to an even more 3T-ish Independent seat.)If the Senate gains a Republican majority (51 or more), add 5 points.

If the Senate loses Democrats but maintains a Democratic plurality (difficult to do), subtract 3 points.

If the Senate has 50 Democrats, subtract 1 point.

I can't think of any Independents who will be unseated now, except for Ventura's appointed Wellstone replacement, whom we allAdd 1 point for each Independent who loses his seat, not due to retiring.knowis supposed to be temporary. Does anyone else know of any losses I can add a point for?

No one I could think of, although we could subtract 3 points later if any of the Republicans in either the House or the Senate does a Jim Jeffords style move (or more or fewer points. Would becoming Democrat or Independent be more strongly 3T?)If a new Independent is actually elected to the Senate, the House or a governor's office, subtract 3 points. If MORE THAN ONE Independent wins a seat that was formerly occupied by either a Republican or a Democrat, than subtract three points for each of them.

Beat a Boomer...took a seat from a Boomer...technically he did both. I know we can subtract 1 for him (or maybe we can try -1 point each for incumbents and -2 points each for new blood). I'm less sure about G.I.'s beating Boomers than Silents beating Boomers, since Silents are considered the perfect anti-4T generation. I also just realized that I don't have anything listed on what to do if a Silent beats a Boomer in a race where both are new. This would tell us how much to subtract for the victory of Libby Dole. I suppose it would be more impressive than if the Silent already had an advantage of incumbency going for her...but less impressive than if she actually unseated a Boomer running again...that would most likely make it -5 points.looks like we'll subtract 1 for Lautenberg (do we subtract 10 more because he beat and took a seat from a Boomer? :-))For each incumbent Silent who is unseated by a Boomer, add 2 points.

Subtract 3 points for every Silent incumbent who manages to beat a Boomer challenge.

If an incumbent Boomer loses his seat to a SILENT...subtract 10 points.

The presence of the G.I. Generation reflects our place in the saeculum, and public presence of G.I.'s today denotes that we are earlier rather than later in the cycle. So if any G.I. wins a race, subtract 1 point for each of them.

Hmmmm...what if they're neck-to-neck with the Boomers? Would that be 0 points?If the Silents maintain their plurality, subtract 5 points.

Yeah, I guess it's too soon to tell. And some of these races are going to drag on and on. Is the litigiousness something 3T? Can't say I get to subtract a thousand for the last one, though...not that I was disappointed by the absence of frivolity (you have to have expected what you didn't get for it to count as disappointment). OTOH I didn't see more flag-waving in the assemblies than I did in 2000, 1998 or 1996...in a 4T one would expect the "God bless America" spirit to be noticeably greater this time around.:LOL: for the last one... conclusion: TOO SOON TO TELLIf the voter turnout rate for all 18-to-24-year-olds in America is at least 40%, add 10 points.

If the majority of 18-to-24-year-olds vote, add 20 points.

If over 60% of them vote, add 30 points.

Finally, if any news network cancels its election coverage tonight to show you poodles in bikinis and people who have learned to flatulate every note with their armpits, subtract 1,000 points.